Question:  “I thought they were putting the windmills 10-12 miles out? The horizon disappears at 8 miles. We won’t see the windmills unless we travel 2 miles towards them in the water?”

ANSWER: According to the developer, Fred Olson Co, Wind mills are 8 miles NW of Cleveland or 5-6 miles north of Lakewood. Wind mills this size disappear from view at 32 miles. We are showing accurate simulations of what the view would look like from Lakewood and from Edgewater Beach. This is why so many east coast communities have zoning requiring 30 miles distance from shore.

Question: “Doesn’t this project only consists of 6 giant wind turbines, not 1,450 giant wind turbines?”

ANSWER: Fred Olson Company and LEEDCo have both said publicly that the long term plan is 1,450 wind turbines:

      a. Quote: “We are definitely going forward — all system are go,” said Dave Karpinski, vice-president of operations for a consortium behind the project, the Lake Erie Energy Development Corp. (LEEDCo). “Our vision is 5,000 megawatts over the next 10 to 15 years,” he said.

Doing the math for how much each giant wind turbine can generate, that would require installing about 1,450 giant wind turbines in lake Erie.

      b. -In the Cleveland City Club forum video of April 28, 2017 Lorry Wagner, head of LEEDCo talks about wanting to harness 10% of the wind capacity on the Ohio waters of Lake Erie.  That would equate to thousands of Wind Turbines. LEEDCo has said in the filing of their 2015 IRS 990 filing that this was the start of the buildup of wind offshore wind turbine development in Lake Erie.

      c. The Cleveland Convention Center on 8/23/13. —  Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur said that Lake Erie is the Saudi Arabia of Wind.  At the time they were proposing to use a Siemens 3.0 MW wind turbine.  So, again – simple math if you want 5,000 megawatts they’ll need way more than 6 giant wind turbines, they will have to install thousands of giant wind turbines.

       d. Here is a copy of a promotional flyer from Fred Olson Company and LEEDCo: clearly demonstrating that the true nature of the giant wind turbine project is NOT six giant wind turbines, but more than a thousand giant wind wind turbines:


Question: Don’t skyscrapers with mirrored windows kill more birds than giant wind turbines?

ANSWER: The bird kills observed around giant wind turbines are exponentially larger than around sky scrapers. Many Birds are known to fly towards the lights on wind turbines and it can blind them to the spinning blades. Many bird organizations including the American Bird Conservancy and the Black Swamp Bird Observatory in western Ohio have documented the bird kills over the last 20 years and have filed formal objections to the Fred Olson Company/LEEDCo lake Erie Icebreaker giant wind turbine project. 

Question:  Aren’t most bird deaths caused by windmills are to large birds like raptors — which are generally not common in Northern Ohio and none of the large birds in Ohio are known to fly over the lake, instead, sticking mainly within eyesight of the coastline?

ANSWER: In March, 2011, Jeff Schmidt of the Pennsylvania Sierra Club testified to the Pennsylvania State Legislature. He stated that “Lake Erie is unique among the Great Lakes because it’s shallow depth provides forage grounds for ducks, loons, horned grebes and other waterfowl across its ENTIRE surface. Shore birds, song birds and raptors all cross the lake at varying locations and altitudes and migratory birds are already stressed. Lake Erie is unique in that its shallow depth provides potential habitat across most of the lake surface. Ducks and geese number approximately 100,000 in the winter.

The entire Lake Erie central basin is a designated globally important bird area according to the National Audubon Society and Bird Conservation International Society. Based on studies by the Fish and Wild Life Service, from 400,000 to 13 million songbirds fly at the height of the wind turbine blades over the course of one year. This study was presented to the Ohio Power Citing Board. In 2017, Kim Kaufman of The Black Swamp Board presented a letter to the Ohio Power Citing Board rejecting the claims made by LEEDCo that the project would have no effect on birdlife.

The letter was published in the Port Clinton News Herald and states that after 30 years of research a significant threat would be posed and claimed that LEEDCo cited outdated studies and stated inaccurate information.

It is very important to note that Europe has banned wind turbines closer than 12 miles because of the congregation of waterfowl.

Question:  Aren’t giant wind turbines a good thing because they provide “green” energy?

ANSWER: The giant wind turbines are not green. It takes more CO2 to make the steel and other parts in them than it saves. It is important to know that Ohio has reduced CO2 emissions each year for the last 8 years. This was done without the use of giant wind turbines. No other country in the world has done this. 

Question:  Don’t we need these giant wind turbines to provide Northern Ohio with cheap electricity?

ANSWER: The opposite of this is true: Fred Olson Company/LEEDCo has stated the just the 6 giant wind turbines will add an average increase in electricity costs of $1.31 each month to every residential electric bill in Cleveland. It will cost even higher for companies in Cleveland. That is not “cheap electricity” it is more costly electricity.